UPDATES:
To better serve our clientele as well as learn about how our
products work in the field, we are making some changes to
the warranty policy here at Liberty Suppressors.
For all future baffle strike warranty requests, we will be
collecting the following data in an effort to figure out the
problem with the strikes and to see if there is any trends
that develop based on ammunition, weapons or suppressor
issues. Each suppressor is tested here at the facility with
live ammunition to confirm that it is free of baffle strikes
before it leaves to go to the customer.
WARRANTY:
Our Warranty is simple.
Liberty Suppressors offers a lifetime warranty and will
repair or replace, free of charge, any sound suppressor
manufactured by Liberty Suppressors.
This warranty does not cover damage to the sound suppressor
and/or host firearm resulting in whole or in part from
criminal or negligent use, improper or careless handling,
modifications, defective, improper hand-loaded or reloaded
ammunition, or neglect. This warranty does not cover a
suppressors use on center fire rifles w/ barrels shorter
than 10 ¼”.
This warranty does not cover damage to the sound suppressor
or host firearm due to improper installation of the Sound
Suppressor, or an improperly threaded barrel. (See
additional “Important” sheet for testing barrel prior to
installing suppressor)
Any repairs not covered by this warranty will be charged to
the owner.
Sealed Suppressors need not be cleaned or taken apart. The
Kodiak is provided with disassembly instructions. If a
sealed unit, which is a suppressor that is not intended to
be disassembled by the user, is returned with evidence of
disassembly by anyone other than the manufacturer, this
warranty is void.
Sealed Suppressors are covered for cleaning, only after a
significant number of rounds have been fired thru the
silencer and it has filled up w/ “crud”, this amount being
easily quantified by weighing the suppressor. The
suppressor is eligible for a free rebuild when it weighs at
least 1.5 times the amt, of when it was new. At this point,
box it up, send it back and we will rebuild, refinish and
send it back toyou…. For Free. You will need only to send
payment for return shipping.
New for 2011, we are having to institute a new policy. We
can no longer hold weapons (including silencers)
indefinitely. Due to limited storage space, lingering
logbook entries, and monetary investment, we are, as of
January 1, 2011, starting the "1 Year Rule".
If your item is left with us for a period of 1 year after
the work has been completed and the owner notified, with
no activity that shows an attempt to pick up the item, the
item will become the property of Liberty Suppressors. The
deposit on the item, if any, will also be forfeited.
This does not include the NFA Branch dragging their feet.
We will check with them to see if the transfer is in
process (thus showing activity on the part of the buyer)
and if so, then the year starts when we see the paperwork
in our mailbox that shows the transfer is approved.
We make every attempt to contact the owners of the
property and give them periodic updates, but when we
finish our part, we need the items claimed and picked up
in a timely manner.
We don't see this much, but it is an issue that needs
addressing as we do have a few items that are lingering in
the safe and they need to go home....
Thank you for understanding,
The Liberty Team
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IMPORTANT- FOLLOW THESE STEPS BEFORE USING YOUR NEW
SUPPRESSOR !
You will need to make certain that the shooting system is
ready for the new piece to be added (the silencer). Take
the following steps to check that the weapon and ammunition
combinations that you plan to use will be compatible with a
silencer being added BEFORE installing the suppressor on
your weapon.
But, just like adding new precision parts to a production
automobile, there is the possibility that things will not
interact properly causing damage to the system. Therefore,
you will need to make certain that the shooting system is
ready for the new piece to be added (the silencer).
1. Bullet stability. Test fire your gun/ammo
combination at 3 feet and 10 feet into a cardboard target
to check that the bullets are leaving the gun in a stable
fashion. Anything that is not making a perfectly round hole
should be considered suspect and not used with a suppressor
attached.
2. Thread alignment. The alignment of the threads is
the cause of more baffle strikes than any other reason from
our research. The threads should be aligned with the BORE
and not the outside profile of the barrel. Many gunsmiths
mistakenly assume that the outside of a gun barrel is
aligned with the bore. Many times this is not the case.
Always confirm that the silencer is aligned with the bore
by visual inspection. On handguns, remove the barrel if
possible and install the silencer then look at the blue sky
(not the sun) and visually confirm that the barrel and
silencer are aligned, if the shadow of the silencer is not
evenly spaced around the end of the barrel, then they
should be checked with a dial indicator or a correctly
fitted range rod. See your gunsmith for help with this
action.
3. Torque shoulder. The torque shoulder at the back
of the threads is another area that causes many problems.
We normally recommend that there be at least .050” wall
height for the silencer to breech against. This means that
the diameter of the barrel at this point would be at least .
100” larger than the thread diameter. Some guns do not
have this much material to work with so check to be sure
that the silencer is stopping against the shoulder and not
running over it. There are some SIG barrels on the market
that are very thin and this is a problem with them. To
eliminate this problem with a thin barrel, the suppressor
should breech on the muzzle of the barrel instead. There
will always be a shoulder here that can be used, but this
generates greater expense as normal manufacturing
techniques cannot be used to make these parts.
4. Cast bullets. Cast bullets offer the shooter a
lot of bang for his buck in that they are very inexpensive
and allow the shooter to enjoy his hobby more for the same
money. Be careful though, these bullets are prone to
vaporizing lead and depositing it on the first few baffles
in the silencer. The problem comes when it starts to
constrict the bore line and generates baffle strikes.
5. Thread size. There is only one instance where I
have found this to be a problem and that is with the
following two thread pitches. 9/16-24LH and 14x1mmLH. These
two threads are very close in size with the pitch of the
Imperial thread being .04166” and the metric thread pitch
being .03937”. Since there is only .0023” difference in
the pitch of these two threads, it is possible to install a
metric threaded unit onto the imperial thread if it has
been threaded a little loose. It will not fit properly and
is considered dangerous by us. Do not do this. Be sure of
your thread size before installing the silencer on it. Get
with your gunsmith if you are unsure and have him measure
it.
Once all these things have been checked, then fire the
weapon, ammo, and suppressor together. Doing these
precautions will eliminate many of the possible ways to
damage your registered NFA item that you spent so much time
and energy getting into your hand.
We do not recommend firing your suppressor until all of
this has been checked and found to be in correct order. Our
warranty policy will not cover gross negligence on the
part of the end user.
Issue resolution data collection form
For all baffle strike warranty requests, we will be collecting
the following data in an effort to figure out the problem with
the strikes and to see if there is any trends that develop based
on ammunition, weapons or suppressor issues. Each suppressor is
tested here at the facility with live ammunition to confirm that
it is free of baffle strikes before it leaves to go to the
customer.
Also please note that there is a difference between point of
impact shift and baffle strike issues. Some people are getting
these two issues confused and we would like to clear this
misunderstanding up as well.
• Baffle strikes will cause erratic group sizes, most of
the time causing the groups to open up and shift dramatically.
The direction of shift is not an issue, but rather that it IS
shifting and there is a dramatic change in accuracy of the
groups that is negative in nature.
• Point of Impact Shift is caused by the harmonic
disturbance of the silencer on the end of the barrel. Sometimes
the gas inside the silencer can also disrupt bullet flight, but
most of the time it is due to the weight of the silencer being
added that changes where the bullets land on the target. Most
of the time, the gun will shoot low and to the left. This is
based on our own personal experience with firearms here at the
test facility. The biggest difference between this and baffle
strikes is that the group size will almost always be the same or
slightly smaller. So the gun will shoot better most of the
time, just in a different place. In some extreme instances
there have been changes of up to 12”, but the groups still run
good. This is a function of several factors that affect the
barrel such as barrel harmonics, size of the barrel (diameter),
barrel length and fluting, and length and weight of the
silencer. Barrel whip is dampened when the silencer is added.
The silencer being added to the end of the barrel will also pull
the barrel down with gravity as well, causing the gun to shoot
low by a function of gravitational pull.
Please fill out the form below to help us know what to do for
your silencer. Click Here to print the form.
Suppressor S/N:
Gun Model:
Ammo:
Who threaded the gun?
Approx. How many rounds before the issue?
Which mounting device was on the suppressor?
What is the problem that you are having?
Thank you for your help and we will try our best to get your
problem resolved. Please refer to our evaluation sheet to
figure out if there are any precursor issues to this problem.
Thank you,
The Liberty Team
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